I haven't been playing much because a lot of the new content isn't immediate, (Ex: tama, nessa, mamu, whole village, and new skins, and also compendium) which isn't an issue normaly, but I'm on a school device which resets my cookies everytime I log out, restart, or turn off my device. Would be cool to have save-codes, but obviously most people don't have my issue
you probably could copy the save files. They would be in C : users : whatever the current profile is : Appdata : local low : jays games : vanguard monsters
ok so this is kinda convoluted but they Do count as attack damage but the do not Attack. So most effects such as Ripper wont trigger because its not attacking, but something like Finisher's bonus dmg vs targets below 50% hp will boost their dmg.
lol bulky synergy so much better in every way than aura. It can so easily give you more everything, its way more stable and you can use your aura for stuff other than keeping your monsters alive
I have mathematically proved that the limit is NOT 999 str and def.
Please observe my beautiful krogs stats. you will notice that by having bulky 3 upon entering a battle it would technically add my 999 with 749 both ways for a total of 1748 str and def. It is essential now to multiply this by 2 since both my str and my def are equal to 1748 and to determine krogs final hp we have to add his new str and def to it. 1748x2=3496 which, when added to 3359, gives us a grand total of 6855 hp
now look of my krog photographed in battle seconds later. And what should his hp be but 6855 the AMOUNT THAT COULD NOT BE ATTAINED BY MERELY 999 STR AND DEF. So, therefore, I believe the maximum attainable str and def is actually 1998 and that is why i think the bulky synergy is arguably the most cracked synergy to ever exist.
:D this is actually because the Bulky HP gain uses the amounts that are added to the others, before theyre added into the stat itself and therefore hitting the limit. It does work out in Bulky's benefit lol
thats unfortunate lol. So then the only way to make krog stronger is to increase his hp a teensy bit. Normally the extra bit of damage would not be that helpful but when its being multiplied by 1800, well then ...
Ive merged 6 tempered unerring arrows which helps. Also the food and events add up after a while. But this is nothing compared to other people ive seen. How they max out speed beats me
I think i have found the only way for a truly infinite run. My krog deals 200000 damage to all enemies immediately despite the fact they all have max def. Since the maximum hp is 99999, does that not mean this is an actually infinite run?
New patch is out, with 16 costumes to collect. Also this will most likely be the last content patch for abit, because I am going to be devoting alot of time to working on new bigger version for steam release
OP? my guy the whole purpose of the Meditation Gardens is so that you can combo more types in the same team, plus you would still be sacrificing something like a farm, a start item, lower shop prices, or even archetypes. Plus the only 2 monsters with 3 archetypes don't really pair with each other except for the lucky type, so a third Meditation Garden would only need a lvl 2 upgrade to work currently
theres three I believe wrymlet, hydrim and chip. Getting synergies of any kind is almost always either valuable or at least nice and I feel you can get more value out of the garden than most other buildings
noo my loop 3 run of 4 woad 1 parra (71 spd w/ 2x leafspear & windslicer) and 1 hydrim is lost due to the savefile thing on browser still not really completed
i dont think so because in a few loops the damage will probably be reduced to nothing. With max def. , enemies will take about a 1000 times less damage from attacks right?
not to mention. getting and maxing out all the arrows takes a LOT of time, aura and luck and its only viable for at most, 3 monsters (all attacking the enemy right in front of them) at best
We might have a problem here. Krog and 4 unnerring arrows is fun :). Thank you SO MUCH bertie690 for this idea. You said it was good on mudgill and I wondered why not krog?
Ok, can someone just give me the final answers to finding the secrets. After so much searching and hours of gameplay, I still haven't found any of them. :(
I think it would be fun to see one of the secret monsters (nessa, mabu, or tama), though nessa would probably be bad, but Collapse is OP so who knows (if you do nessa it does really good against targoth)
XD Well I think is imposible or just really hard. I got the legendary ominous bust (or something called like this) in the first area. I bought a lot of potions and nothing XD I cant defeat the first area.
When I pick an egg I get some food and I think a bunch of food is better than the amount of aura that you earn. :) However I realized that it is imposible to sell an egg, because it crashed when you do it.
Why was Nessa so simple yet so complex (realizing I literally never do what was needed to unlock Nessa because I'm too good to need it)
To unlock Greave1 has the information anyone struggling will need, now time to unlock nessa egg and experiment with it. It is also a typing that I think will be fun (elemental+guardian)
Based on test run the evaluation of thermals and nessa as a whole was a bit harsh in the tier list in chat, but it resets its stat changes after it's passive activates (making it unviable for true endless runs), still with collapse it can sustain itself and its allies very well, making it an interesting healer.
Nessa is my new favorite tank, especially once radiated, giving benefit to triggering the passive with nova, and help staying alive with collapse
Mamu is one of the best but only with his Icefang and Tusk Gore, Enemies can't really buff themselves anymore thanks to him. Then there's Nessa which seems pretty good, i always choose Thermals and Collapse, it's an instant proc, and eventually it just keeps healing and losing hp so it never goes into egg form, i gotta try the other abilities for Nessa ig
(realizes thermals can be good) Thaaaaaaats why it becomes so much stronger when I radiate it, I usually pick susceptibility and nova, but collapse and thermals is actually a lot stronger, gonna try that on my calamity run, I have beaten the other four on standard using nessa, and I think egg will be helpful with the you lose=you die
I found a funny little visual bug, the strigeye option to send that egg home displays the first three letters (Str) as if it was the strength text (from the off-white to the bright red of strength.
Just wanted to comment on this game - been playing it for a few days now and its great. Great job! Looks like your latest post answered a question I had regarding alt skins for monsters as my Mabek is more Anubis than crocodile. Is it random or did I do something accidentally to get it?
Thank you :D It's just random currently! 50% chance. In the future the system itself will be expanded but I can't guarantee it will be next patch with the summer skins
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I haven't been playing much because a lot of the new content isn't immediate, (Ex: tama, nessa, mamu, whole village, and new skins, and also compendium) which isn't an issue normaly, but I'm on a school device which resets my cookies everytime I log out, restart, or turn off my device. Would be cool to have save-codes, but obviously most people don't have my issue
Besides that though the skins i've seen are pretty sick
you probably could copy the save files. They would be in C : users : whatever the current profile is : Appdata : local low : jays games : vanguard monsters
yeah device is pretty locked down, can't access C: Drive, just playing in browser version
the storm fused ripper with quest
We need a monkey monster.
that could be interesting
Or a monster that has an attack that has int or def scaling, or some percent of strength combined with one of those
also when you do a loop in infinite runs it deletes your quest
theyre equipment so you can save them by putting them on a monster :D (Once its completed though it doesnt matter if it gets deleted)
Im gonna try doing a magical build using double Parra and see how it goes.
when Tama's mouse-lings do damage do they count as an attack for example if i gave it a ripper will it apply rip stacks when the mouse-lings hit?
ok so this is kinda convoluted but they Do count as attack damage but the do not Attack. So most effects such as Ripper wont trigger because its not attacking, but something like Finisher's bonus dmg vs targets below 50% hp will boost their dmg.
thanks for the clarification
you can sell the quests for 50 aura each, if you complete them or not.
I'm deleting old run to get some epic costumes, Karakai and nessa up first
Do you have to have quest equipped to get costume?
(edit) you don't, Karakai complete, but I think i might need to try solo nessa for 5 seconds if I want its skin
edit edit: nope got it on second boss, and these two skins could not clash more
mamu and tuskal next
Tuskal has no quest :(
Not sure what the skin would have been though so I don't really care
no, you don't need a quest equipped to get the costume. it's a 50% chance for either.
xD
This game has been carrying the end of my school year on god.
glad it could help :D
gosh finally tempered my great unnerring arrow 30 times x_x
<.<
krogs hp is 8000 on the dot
need to bring in a Parra and Wyrmlet to use that aura :D
lol bulky synergy so much better in every way than aura. It can so easily give you more everything, its way more stable and you can use your aura for stuff other than keeping your monsters alive
W. First time it happened to me. I flipped the coin for aura a few times and i got the lucky synergy sooo ... welp ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I have this weird ball thats just bouncing and rolling around my village. What do I do with it
its for them to play with!
quick tiny patch, Nessas Costume no longer makes them look like Krog XD
I have mathematically proved that the limit is NOT 999 str and def.
Please observe my beautiful krogs stats. you will notice that by having bulky 3 upon entering a battle it would technically add my 999 with 749 both ways for a total of 1748 str and def. It is essential now to multiply this by 2 since both my str and my def are equal to 1748 and to determine krogs final hp we have to add his new str and def to it. 1748x2=3496 which, when added to 3359, gives us a grand total of 6855 hp
now look of my krog photographed in battle seconds later. And what should his hp be but 6855 the AMOUNT THAT COULD NOT BE ATTAINED BY MERELY 999 STR AND DEF. So, therefore, I believe the maximum attainable str and def is actually 1998 and that is why i think the bulky synergy is arguably the most cracked synergy to ever exist.
:D this is actually because the Bulky HP gain uses the amounts that are added to the others, before theyre added into the stat itself and therefore hitting the limit. It does work out in Bulky's benefit lol
thats unfortunate lol. So then the only way to make krog stronger is to increase his hp a teensy bit. Normally the extra bit of damage would not be that helpful but when its being multiplied by 1800, well then ...
holy moly how did you get that stats
Ive merged 6 tempered unerring arrows which helps. Also the food and events add up after a while. But this is nothing compared to other people ive seen. How they max out speed beats me
oh or if you are talking about the second photo were krog has 7k hp thats just max bulky synergy. Arguably the best synergy in the game
max Spd is either from a Tizik with alotta int or from an old bug that shouldnt happen anymore
How do you get mamu and nessa? Do I need anything to get them?
here are the hints that helped me
mamu:
- requires something in the village
- hint: empty
nessa:
- requires a specific action with a specific egg
- hint: rest/bird
Thank you
more details: Mamu requires a specific level 3 village building.
Nessa cannot be done in zone 1, but doesnt require looping either
Great ty. The more info it helps.
the quest items can be eqiped
yea technically they are equipment lol
Oh noooo it finally happened ... press button and winning are now separated by mere milliseconds. (I got jittery)
hyper sonic massive frog
I think i have found the only way for a truly infinite run. My krog deals 200000 damage to all enemies immediately despite the fact they all have max def. Since the maximum hp is 99999, does that not mean this is an actually infinite run?
there are definitely some ways to go infinite atm! Its gonna need some tweaks :D
New patch is out, with 16 costumes to collect. Also this will most likely be the last content patch for abit, because I am going to be devoting alot of time to working on new bigger version for steam release
good luck. Ive seen some of the steam games and i can say with confidence they are way worse than vanguard monsters :)
is there any chance that we will be able to build 3 Meditation Gardens in a future?
edited cause i forgot that Hydrim was also a 3 type monster too lol
probably not that would be too OP
OP? my guy the whole purpose of the Meditation Gardens is so that you can combo more types in the same team, plus you would still be sacrificing something like a farm, a start item, lower shop prices, or even archetypes. Plus the only 2 monsters with 3 archetypes don't really pair with each other except for the lucky type, so a third Meditation Garden would only need a lvl 2 upgrade to work currently
i don’t really see the point in 2-3 extra starting synergies
i’m pretty sure there’s an item for virtually every synergy, so if you’re desperate for one you can just grab a couple of that item
prime examples:
spyglass - tactician
heavy shackles - bulky
stick effigy - haunted
heart of the sea - aquatic
etc
runs are easy enough, there’s no reason to make them easier
first, we have infinite run, second, we have higher difficulties if it's too easy...
Ive got a krog who is happily dealing 300000 damage to all of my enemies in one hit even though all the enemies have 700 defense :) ; Not easy at all
theres three I believe wrymlet, hydrim and chip. Getting synergies of any kind is almost always either valuable or at least nice and I feel you can get more value out of the garden than most other buildings
i completely forgot about Hydrim lmao
noo my loop 3 run of 4 woad 1 parra (71 spd w/ 2x leafspear & windslicer) and 1 hydrim is lost due to the savefile thing on browser still not really completed
What happened, the run disappeared? Do you know if your browser automatically clears cookies/caches?
i checked, it doesn't automatically clear them
O: How many arrows is that?
6. Each deals 3.5 times the damage meaning that its 3.5^6 which means im doing 1838.3 times more damage than normal
i think i may have to finally fix the way they stack xD
i dont think so because in a few loops the damage will probably be reduced to nothing. With max def. , enemies will take about a 1000 times less damage from attacks right?
not to mention. getting and maxing out all the arrows takes a LOT of time, aura and luck and its only viable for at most, 3 monsters (all attacking the enemy right in front of them) at best
Now Ill just wait for krog to get jittery and we'll see what happens BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
And you gotta max it out just tempering all of the arrows twice makes you deal only 729 times the damage
"only" lol
hey, its almost half the other damage
I think I forgot to mention ITS LOOP THREE
Ok, can someone just give me the final answers to finding the secrets. After so much searching and hours of gameplay, I still haven't found any of them. :(
eg with knif
i was trying to get the lowest base hp monster possible and then add a spirt shield on it but i ended up doing this
wait how did you get an egg out of battle?? was this from using stick effigies to reduce their hp?
the cave event
ohh very interesting that makes sense
woad's actually better than i thought. just put a stick effigy on your nessa, and bam! free food.
it also epic atk scalng and is good with mabek
any hints for mamu?
1. You do something in the village. 2. Its something you wouldnt normally do. 3. It requires a tier 3 building. 4. Its vaguely related to cold.
what happens if you have two giant shortswords merged. Is that 3 attacks or 4?
test if two circle of acuity is 3 or 4 and then apply that to the giant shortswords
Double circlet is 3 casts (+1 for each)
Giant's Shortsword is one of the few effects that doesnt stack with itself.
huh thank you for telling me
the burnout meltdown team :D
its probably gonna lose at some point
it lost the next fight
lol theres no healing at all
now thats what i call burning the candle from both ends!
i got nessa and amu is there any more secret monster to unlock?
have you found Tama? theyre the only other secret
there's a bug where the tama applies 10 stacks of gnaw on it's first hit
thats not a bug :D it says if they dont have any apply 10
Intended mechanic
theres a bug where save file doesnt reset resource gathering
you beat a boss you choose get resources and then you abandon run and reload and rebeat boss and pick get resources again, repeat until rich
yay
wait actually thats bad
This game is very complicated at first, but very fun once you figure out how to play
thank you, i do plan to make a more easily understood start with a short tutorial hopefully
Tutorial should have gora and scutter as the examples in the tutorial, as they are relatively simple and pretty strong
I've completed the nonendless in the hardest mode with just one monster. I will try to do it with another one.
I did it again
strigeye is pretty hard for me to use, thats epic! I also like that you had the butterfly looking synergies for the false butterfly monster
The truth is that I don't speak English very well, forgive me if I say something wrong.
I haven't looked at the synergies too much, I really like tenacious and tactician (but the latter doesn't work with only one monster)
I'm glad you liked it :) If you have a monster as a request to try to pass the mode to me, I'll listen to you.
I think it would be fun to see one of the secret monsters (nessa, mabu, or tama), though nessa would probably be bad, but Collapse is OP so who knows (if you do nessa it does really good against targoth)
XD Well I think is imposible or just really hard. I got the legendary ominous bust (or something called like this) in the first area. I bought a lot of potions and nothing XD I cant defeat the first area.
did you get eggs for any specific reason? At the nest you can choose to the [Leave] option to get some money instead
When I pick an egg I get some food and I think a bunch of food is better than the amount of aura that you earn. :) However I realized that it is imposible to sell an egg, because it crashed when you do it.
btw, is the tama a secret monster? i happened to stumble upon it during my run
yeah tama is secret
yeah there's three, Tama, Mamu and Nessa
Why...
Why was Nessa so simple yet so complex (realizing I literally never do what was needed to unlock Nessa because I'm too good to need it)
To unlock Greave1 has the information anyone struggling will need, now time to unlock nessa egg and experiment with it. It is also a typing that I think will be fun (elemental+guardian)
Who's That Pokemon!
Its Ho-oh!
Based on test run the evaluation of thermals and nessa as a whole was a bit harsh in the tier list in chat, but it resets its stat changes after it's passive activates (making it unviable for true endless runs), still with collapse it can sustain itself and its allies very well, making it an interesting healer.
Nessa is my new favorite tank, especially once radiated, giving benefit to triggering the passive with nova, and help staying alive with collapse
I find the evaluations really interesting :D ive seen plenty of talk of Nessa being op, mamu op, nessa terrible, mamu terrible
Mamu is goated, still unsure on Nessa though. To find out I want to beat all difficulties with nessa, calm and lull are already done
Mamu is one of the best but only with his Icefang and Tusk Gore, Enemies can't really buff themselves anymore thanks to him. Then there's Nessa which seems pretty good, i always choose Thermals and Collapse, it's an instant proc, and eventually it just keeps healing and losing hp so it never goes into egg form, i gotta try the other abilities for Nessa ig
(realizes thermals can be good) Thaaaaaaats why it becomes so much stronger when I radiate it, I usually pick susceptibility and nova, but collapse and thermals is actually a lot stronger, gonna try that on my calamity run, I have beaten the other four on standard using nessa, and I think egg will be helpful with the you lose=you die
i got nessa
How? I've tried everything!!
I found a funny little visual bug, the strigeye option to send that egg home displays the first three letters (Str) as if it was the strength text (from the off-white to the bright red of strength.
shoulda named them strongeye lol
Hey!
Just wanted to comment on this game - been playing it for a few days now and its great. Great job! Looks like your latest post answered a question I had regarding alt skins for monsters as my Mabek is more Anubis than crocodile. Is it random or did I do something accidentally to get it?
Thank you :D It's just random currently! 50% chance. In the future the system itself will be expanded but I can't guarantee it will be next patch with the summer skins
reminds me of how i made a team with both Mabeks, made the dog the guardian while the croc was the int. user