I think i have found the only way for a truly infinite run. My krog deals 200000 damage to all enemies immediately despite the fact they all have max def. Since the maximum hp is 99999, does that not mean this is an actually infinite run?
New patch is out, with 16 costumes to collect. Also this will most likely be the last content patch for abit, because I am going to be devoting alot of time to working on new bigger version for steam release
OP? my guy the whole purpose of the Meditation Gardens is so that you can combo more types in the same team, plus you would still be sacrificing something like a farm, a start item, lower shop prices, or even archetypes. Plus the only 2 monsters with 3 archetypes don't really pair with each other except for the lucky type, so a third Meditation Garden would only need a lvl 2 upgrade to work currently
theres three I believe wrymlet, hydrim and chip. Getting synergies of any kind is almost always either valuable or at least nice and I feel you can get more value out of the garden than most other buildings
noo my loop 3 run of 4 woad 1 parra (71 spd w/ 2x leafspear & windslicer) and 1 hydrim is lost due to the savefile thing on browser still not really completed
i dont think so because in a few loops the damage will probably be reduced to nothing. With max def. , enemies will take about a 1000 times less damage from attacks right?
not to mention. getting and maxing out all the arrows takes a LOT of time, aura and luck and its only viable for at most, 3 monsters (all attacking the enemy right in front of them) at best
We might have a problem here. Krog and 4 unnerring arrows is fun :). Thank you SO MUCH bertie690 for this idea. You said it was good on mudgill and I wondered why not krog?
Ok, can someone just give me the final answers to finding the secrets. After so much searching and hours of gameplay, I still haven't found any of them. :(
I think it would be fun to see one of the secret monsters (nessa, mabu, or tama), though nessa would probably be bad, but Collapse is OP so who knows (if you do nessa it does really good against targoth)
XD Well I think is imposible or just really hard. I got the legendary ominous bust (or something called like this) in the first area. I bought a lot of potions and nothing XD I cant defeat the first area.
When I pick an egg I get some food and I think a bunch of food is better than the amount of aura that you earn. :) However I realized that it is imposible to sell an egg, because it crashed when you do it.
Why was Nessa so simple yet so complex (realizing I literally never do what was needed to unlock Nessa because I'm too good to need it)
To unlock Greave1 has the information anyone struggling will need, now time to unlock nessa egg and experiment with it. It is also a typing that I think will be fun (elemental+guardian)
Based on test run the evaluation of thermals and nessa as a whole was a bit harsh in the tier list in chat, but it resets its stat changes after it's passive activates (making it unviable for true endless runs), still with collapse it can sustain itself and its allies very well, making it an interesting healer.
Nessa is my new favorite tank, especially once radiated, giving benefit to triggering the passive with nova, and help staying alive with collapse
Mamu is one of the best but only with his Icefang and Tusk Gore, Enemies can't really buff themselves anymore thanks to him. Then there's Nessa which seems pretty good, i always choose Thermals and Collapse, it's an instant proc, and eventually it just keeps healing and losing hp so it never goes into egg form, i gotta try the other abilities for Nessa ig
(realizes thermals can be good) Thaaaaaaats why it becomes so much stronger when I radiate it, I usually pick susceptibility and nova, but collapse and thermals is actually a lot stronger, gonna try that on my calamity run, I have beaten the other four on standard using nessa, and I think egg will be helpful with the you lose=you die
I found a funny little visual bug, the strigeye option to send that egg home displays the first three letters (Str) as if it was the strength text (from the off-white to the bright red of strength.
Just wanted to comment on this game - been playing it for a few days now and its great. Great job! Looks like your latest post answered a question I had regarding alt skins for monsters as my Mabek is more Anubis than crocodile. Is it random or did I do something accidentally to get it?
Thank you :D It's just random currently! 50% chance. In the future the system itself will be expanded but I can't guarantee it will be next patch with the summer skins
how come max haunted synergy isnt op because if you max out only a monsters str and then let it die every round, yyou wont get wounds and youll easily dish out a thousand damage to your opponents
the easiest way to get parra egg is to max a nest in the village so you can get cheaper egg sense, also make sure you dont chose parra as one of the two start monsters. also at least build an aurite mine since you get 10% more aura from battles, and maybe even bring chip so you can evolve with alchemize ability for more money per food on him (or just sell the food lol)
that'd be fun, this could force (or at least open up the idea of) different ways to play with certain monsters or try different events, looking forward to it
There. FINALLY got Mamu and Nessa. After attempting all kinds of convoluted arbitrary nonsense, unassigning everyone in the village from their jobs to play with the bouncy red ball for a while, putting myself through hell with various weird long challenge runs in Infinite Mode, savescumming in order to hatch or discard Parra eggs at every single possible random event... I now feel absolutely ridiculous, on account of how simple the actual solutions are.
For Mamu, I looked up the solution, and I'm glad I did because it is something I never would have figured out on my own. Despite it being probably the easiest secret to do once you know how. Not going to simply repost it here, but I will give one more big hint on top of the ones that have already been said. Hint: Empty Building
For Nessa... as far as I can tell, the complete solution isn't yet written down anywhere (and I'm not about to break that tradition), but once I pieced together the hints... I'm actually surprised I didn't get it sooner. Important Info So You Don't Go Crazy While Trying Random Things: Infinite Mode is NOT required, and a specific zone is also not required. Hint: Rest
only thing I'd be worried about is how the damage is around loop 3 or so. If you pick up the scavenger curse you may never lose the battle, but you may never win either...
1: In the village you can build the nest. it will cause a monster to always appear in the starting selection, this can cause 2 to appear at the same time.
2: more complicated method, the option called egg sense lets you get specific monster eggs, but it won't offer ones that are already in your party. it doesn't care about your inventory tho so as long as you don't hatch the eggs, you can stack up multiple of the same. when you have as many as you want hatch them all at the same time
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How do you get mamu and nessa? Do I need anything to get them?
here are the hints that helped me
mamu:
- requires something in the village
- hint: empty
nessa:
- requires a specific action with a specific egg
- hint: rest/bird
Thank you
more details: Mamu requires a specific level 3 village building.
Nessa cannot be done in zone 1, but doesnt require looping either
Great ty. The more info it helps.
the quest items can be eqiped
yea technically they are equipment lol
Oh noooo it finally happened ... press button and winning are now separated by mere milliseconds. (I got jittery)
hyper sonic massive frog
I think i have found the only way for a truly infinite run. My krog deals 200000 damage to all enemies immediately despite the fact they all have max def. Since the maximum hp is 99999, does that not mean this is an actually infinite run?
there are definitely some ways to go infinite atm! Its gonna need some tweaks :D
New patch is out, with 16 costumes to collect. Also this will most likely be the last content patch for abit, because I am going to be devoting alot of time to working on new bigger version for steam release
good luck. Ive seen some of the steam games and i can say with confidence they are way worse than vanguard monsters :)
is there any chance that we will be able to build 3 Meditation Gardens in a future?
edited cause i forgot that Hydrim was also a 3 type monster too lol
probably not that would be too OP
OP? my guy the whole purpose of the Meditation Gardens is so that you can combo more types in the same team, plus you would still be sacrificing something like a farm, a start item, lower shop prices, or even archetypes. Plus the only 2 monsters with 3 archetypes don't really pair with each other except for the lucky type, so a third Meditation Garden would only need a lvl 2 upgrade to work currently
i don’t really see the point in 2-3 extra starting synergies
i’m pretty sure there’s an item for virtually every synergy, so if you’re desperate for one you can just grab a couple of that item
prime examples:
spyglass - tactician
heavy shackles - bulky
stick effigy - haunted
heart of the sea - aquatic
etc
runs are easy enough, there’s no reason to make them easier
first, we have infinite run, second, we have higher difficulties if it's too easy...
Ive got a krog who is happily dealing 300000 damage to all of my enemies in one hit even though all the enemies have 700 defense :) ; Not easy at all
theres three I believe wrymlet, hydrim and chip. Getting synergies of any kind is almost always either valuable or at least nice and I feel you can get more value out of the garden than most other buildings
i completely forgot about Hydrim lmao
noo my loop 3 run of 4 woad 1 parra (71 spd w/ 2x leafspear & windslicer) and 1 hydrim is lost due to the savefile thing on browser still not really completed
What happened, the run disappeared? Do you know if your browser automatically clears cookies/caches?
i checked, it doesn't automatically clear them
O: How many arrows is that?
6. Each deals 3.5 times the damage meaning that its 3.5^6 which means im doing 1838.3 times more damage than normal
i think i may have to finally fix the way they stack xD
i dont think so because in a few loops the damage will probably be reduced to nothing. With max def. , enemies will take about a 1000 times less damage from attacks right?
not to mention. getting and maxing out all the arrows takes a LOT of time, aura and luck and its only viable for at most, 3 monsters (all attacking the enemy right in front of them) at best
Now Ill just wait for krog to get jittery and we'll see what happens BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
And you gotta max it out just tempering all of the arrows twice makes you deal only 729 times the damage
"only" lol
hey, its almost half the other damage
I think I forgot to mention ITS LOOP THREE
Ok, can someone just give me the final answers to finding the secrets. After so much searching and hours of gameplay, I still haven't found any of them. :(
eg with knif
i was trying to get the lowest base hp monster possible and then add a spirt shield on it but i ended up doing this
wait how did you get an egg out of battle?? was this from using stick effigies to reduce their hp?
the cave event
ohh very interesting that makes sense
woad's actually better than i thought. just put a stick effigy on your nessa, and bam! free food.
it also epic atk scalng and is good with mabek
any hints for mamu?
1. You do something in the village. 2. Its something you wouldnt normally do. 3. It requires a tier 3 building. 4. Its vaguely related to cold.
what happens if you have two giant shortswords merged. Is that 3 attacks or 4?
test if two circle of acuity is 3 or 4 and then apply that to the giant shortswords
Double circlet is 3 casts (+1 for each)
Giant's Shortsword is one of the few effects that doesnt stack with itself.
huh thank you for telling me
the burnout meltdown team :D
its probably gonna lose at some point
it lost the next fight
lol theres no healing at all
now thats what i call burning the candle from both ends!
i got nessa and amu is there any more secret monster to unlock?
have you found Tama? theyre the only other secret
there's a bug where the tama applies 10 stacks of gnaw on it's first hit
thats not a bug :D it says if they dont have any apply 10
Intended mechanic
theres a bug where save file doesnt reset resource gathering
you beat a boss you choose get resources and then you abandon run and reload and rebeat boss and pick get resources again, repeat until rich
yay
wait actually thats bad
This game is very complicated at first, but very fun once you figure out how to play
thank you, i do plan to make a more easily understood start with a short tutorial hopefully
Tutorial should have gora and scutter as the examples in the tutorial, as they are relatively simple and pretty strong
I've completed the nonendless in the hardest mode with just one monster. I will try to do it with another one.
I did it again
strigeye is pretty hard for me to use, thats epic! I also like that you had the butterfly looking synergies for the false butterfly monster
The truth is that I don't speak English very well, forgive me if I say something wrong.
I haven't looked at the synergies too much, I really like tenacious and tactician (but the latter doesn't work with only one monster)
I'm glad you liked it :) If you have a monster as a request to try to pass the mode to me, I'll listen to you.
I think it would be fun to see one of the secret monsters (nessa, mabu, or tama), though nessa would probably be bad, but Collapse is OP so who knows (if you do nessa it does really good against targoth)
XD Well I think is imposible or just really hard. I got the legendary ominous bust (or something called like this) in the first area. I bought a lot of potions and nothing XD I cant defeat the first area.
did you get eggs for any specific reason? At the nest you can choose to the [Leave] option to get some money instead
When I pick an egg I get some food and I think a bunch of food is better than the amount of aura that you earn. :) However I realized that it is imposible to sell an egg, because it crashed when you do it.
btw, is the tama a secret monster? i happened to stumble upon it during my run
yeah tama is secret
yeah there's three, Tama, Mamu and Nessa
Why...
Why was Nessa so simple yet so complex (realizing I literally never do what was needed to unlock Nessa because I'm too good to need it)
To unlock Greave1 has the information anyone struggling will need, now time to unlock nessa egg and experiment with it. It is also a typing that I think will be fun (elemental+guardian)
Who's That Pokemon!
Its Ho-oh!
Based on test run the evaluation of thermals and nessa as a whole was a bit harsh in the tier list in chat, but it resets its stat changes after it's passive activates (making it unviable for true endless runs), still with collapse it can sustain itself and its allies very well, making it an interesting healer.
Nessa is my new favorite tank, especially once radiated, giving benefit to triggering the passive with nova, and help staying alive with collapse
I find the evaluations really interesting :D ive seen plenty of talk of Nessa being op, mamu op, nessa terrible, mamu terrible
Mamu is goated, still unsure on Nessa though. To find out I want to beat all difficulties with nessa, calm and lull are already done
Mamu is one of the best but only with his Icefang and Tusk Gore, Enemies can't really buff themselves anymore thanks to him. Then there's Nessa which seems pretty good, i always choose Thermals and Collapse, it's an instant proc, and eventually it just keeps healing and losing hp so it never goes into egg form, i gotta try the other abilities for Nessa ig
(realizes thermals can be good) Thaaaaaaats why it becomes so much stronger when I radiate it, I usually pick susceptibility and nova, but collapse and thermals is actually a lot stronger, gonna try that on my calamity run, I have beaten the other four on standard using nessa, and I think egg will be helpful with the you lose=you die
i got nessa
How? I've tried everything!!
I found a funny little visual bug, the strigeye option to send that egg home displays the first three letters (Str) as if it was the strength text (from the off-white to the bright red of strength.
shoulda named them strongeye lol
Hey!
Just wanted to comment on this game - been playing it for a few days now and its great. Great job! Looks like your latest post answered a question I had regarding alt skins for monsters as my Mabek is more Anubis than crocodile. Is it random or did I do something accidentally to get it?
Thank you :D It's just random currently! 50% chance. In the future the system itself will be expanded but I can't guarantee it will be next patch with the summer skins
reminds me of how i made a team with both Mabeks, made the dog the guardian while the croc was the int. user
hey guys made a quick poll, Which monster would you like to see get an alt skin the most? https://strawpoll.com/polls/w4nWrexR5yA
Karakai would be cool as maybe some kind of turtle, a kind of bowser like form, or some other shelled creature
i finaly did it and i didnt even need a hot place i got what i need before the boss then rested after i have nessa ive done it...
how come max haunted synergy isnt op because if you max out only a monsters str and then let it die every round, yyou wont get wounds and youll easily dish out a thousand damage to your opponents
sounds like a good strat :D all the 3rd tier synergies should be pretty good
what do super faster do
makes the super orb fill up faster. The Greater Blessing is +20%
fun game good mechanics, now to fill the compeduim
star is the egg i need a parra
the easiest way to get parra egg is to max a nest in the village so you can get cheaper egg sense, also make sure you dont chose parra as one of the two start monsters. also at least build an aurite mine since you get 10% more aura from battles, and maybe even bring chip so you can evolve with alchemize ability for more money per food on him (or just sell the food lol)
I did it... I found Nessa... wow it was so simple... i cry now
ikr :cry:
yes, now to wait for the next update to bring more secrets for me to obsess about
next update is gonna mostly be a fun cosmetic patch :D maybe I should give them unlock requirements tho hmm
that'd be fun, this could force (or at least open up the idea of) different ways to play with certain monsters or try different events, looking forward to it
you should put 2 really cool cosmetics that you can only get if you unlock mamu and nessa to give players more incentive to try and unlock them
so far im guesing i have to rest with an unhatched parra egg i just havent been able to in a run to test my theory
correct!
Chip/Woad are the best. (that lightning guy is also amazing for giving hundreds of speed)
I AM GOING INSANE HUNTING FOR NESSA I FOUND MAMU BUT WERE ON THE GODS GREEN EARTH IS NESSA HINTS PLS
Can be found in normal, non-infinite run. Heat. Requires specific egg. Rest.
scroll through the comments and you’ll eventually figure it out
i'm with you man, i too struggle along this path to Nessa
been a long time enjoyer of this game keep up the good work :)
I finally got Mamu! :D
There. FINALLY got Mamu and Nessa. After attempting all kinds of convoluted arbitrary nonsense, unassigning everyone in the village from their jobs to play with the bouncy red ball for a while, putting myself through hell with various weird long challenge runs in Infinite Mode, savescumming in order to hatch or discard Parra eggs at every single possible random event... I now feel absolutely ridiculous, on account of how simple the actual solutions are.
For Mamu, I looked up the solution, and I'm glad I did because it is something I never would have figured out on my own. Despite it being probably the easiest secret to do once you know how. Not going to simply repost it here, but I will give one more big hint on top of the ones that have already been said.
Hint: Empty BuildingFor Nessa... as far as I can tell, the complete solution isn't yet written down anywhere (and I'm not about to break that tradition), but once I pieced together the hints... I'm actually surprised I didn't get it sooner.
Important Info So You Don't Go Crazy While Trying Random Things: Infinite Mode is NOT required, and a specific zone is also not required.
Hint: RestVery well done, I definitely will have more in game guides for the next time I add a secret monster. These 2 were kinda last minute lol
THE HEALING MACHINE HAS BEEN AMASSED
I cant wait to get them all potency
only thing I'd be worried about is how the damage is around loop 3 or so. If you pick up the scavenger curse you may never lose the battle, but you may never win either...
a few heavy shackles to gain lots of str and some plague blades to increase debuff length and ill hope for the best
gotta water the plants
How do you get multiple of the same monster
before hatching the eggs, keep going to nests and find the mon that you want, then when you have enough, hatch them
so there are 2 ways
1: In the village you can build the nest. it will cause a monster to always appear in the starting selection, this can cause 2 to appear at the same time.
2: more complicated method, the option called egg sense lets you get specific monster eggs, but it won't offer ones that are already in your party. it doesn't care about your inventory tho so as long as you don't hatch the eggs, you can stack up multiple of the same. when you have as many as you want hatch them all at the same time
i deleted my browser data so now i have to obtain nessa legitimately 😭