k so far I have tried the following to get nessa, I have used tama and pyris egg over a campfire, I have tried to sell and upgrade tama and pyris egg, as well as parra egg (because it's a bird) I have tried all of the following while in the volcano zone, I have gotten rid of eggs at the last boss fight in infinite mode, and now I am completely out of ideas, I have even looked into greek mythology, because nessa was someone who lost a song contest and got turned into a bird, are there any song events?
Not sure where the dev comes up with monster names, but if the name has anything to do with how to get it, I might have an idea
EDIT: but the current web version bug that breaks eggs on save reload would screw it up, it allready requires some ammount of luck and getting the correct event would make it even worse
Also I don't think the dev would expect anyone to figure this out, but I have an idea, I'm legit investigating greek lore rn, nessa is a Pierides, who got turned into a bird after losing a singing contest
I can't tell if that tip helped or made it worse, I allready knew it looks like a bird, but I really don't feel any closer than I was, but I am assuming that all there is to it is opening a specific egg in a specific event, the trouble is which egg and which event, I guess a heat related event? The egg I am mostly clueless, but parra is allready a bird, tama egg would just make sense, and pyris is literraly flaming, I just feel like I have allready tried most possibilities,
I guess I just order eggs from least to most likely and work my way down the list, using that specific egg in every event, but that seems like a time waster, until this bug gets fixed where I can't use eggs after save quitting
bird specifically is the right track! also which version # are you playing on btw? the most recent update should have fixed the broken egg reload glitch
THATS WHAT I THOUGHT, BUT I CAN"T SAVE RELOAD WITHOUT MY EGGS BREAKING
I feel so smart rn, and sniperarchery also figured it out without me saying much except for greek lore, but it is pretty difficult to get an egg and an event in loop 1, especially if it is the tama egg, and heres the thing, the dev said that it was hard to find out and easy to get, and this isnt easy to get, so probably a lucky consequence, also Mamu was super easy for me to find, and this just seems so complicated
Hmmm, I have 24/25 monsters unlocked... What am i Missing? I got Mamu and Nessa already, as well as Tama and the regular stuff you can find on runs. Can I have some hints, dear dev :3
would probably be nice on mabu based on the second form that got added to my compendium somehow. Speaking of how do i get them (mabu, not the aurite i know how)
there are 2 ways. 1 is a random greater blessing reward from completing a loop in infinite mode. The other requires you to build an Aurite Mine at your village and have 3 mons working at it. This will allow you to buy 1 radiant during your runs as a new option from aurite locations (its expensive tho)
Mabu has something to do with lvl 3 nest i found, but nothing on nessa yet, exhausted my only leads in hatching an egg in sweltering heat and warm light
i cannot seem to get past boss cuz it just crashes i think this is because of the new curses since this save was from before the update was really hoping for loop 25 or something (also i think some of my village monsters disappeared but that could be my imagination)
K so far the tips ive seen are the following: nessa is warmth related, it is acquired by doing something similar to the inverse of tama, it is not normally something you'd do it a run, and it doesn't require items, (Not sure if this includes cheese for tama egg), I am taking some guesses, but maybe an egg needs to be hatched in the volcano area, or the egg has to be a pyris egg (for heat), but these both seem like things you would normally do in a run
The Mamu seemed pretty easy to get, I just really over complicated it, so I'm probably going to figure out that I'm also over complicating nessa a bunch
yeah I had that issue too, but I figured most people would max tama so it wouldn't matter, pretty easy fix to just add dark outlines for tamas missing evo tho
I randomly found the middle mabu evolution unlocked somewhere but not the others, I hatched a mudgill in the warm light event trying to get nessa and evolved it when it wasn't nessa, but this unlocked the second mabu in the compendium, and not the first or third forms.
Rather obscure bug with Ethereal Torch : If you swap two monsters holding Ethereal Torch, the torch will sometimes only proc once.
I tested this by swapping a Chip with Replica holding an Ethereal Torch and a Seras with Flanking Maneuvers , given the effects of the torch using Replica.
Sometimes only 20 strength got added, and sometimes 40. The monsters also sometimes stayed in the same place, as intended, but sometimes they swapped. Strangely, this did not seem to correlate with the amount of strength added.
Edit: After further testing with the same setup, the effect rarely activates three times. I have no idea what might cause this.
My guesses for getting Nessa so far are that after getting a specific egg, you either beat the final boss and get rid of it, sell it, or use it during a specific event, which really doesent narrow it down, but I am going to try some of these things with the tama egg
I'm tellin you, I've tried so many things and still cant figure out what to do, I have sold eggs, merged them, used them in specific events. named pets crazy things, I legitamately don't know what to do anymore.
For the egg, I think I broke a bit from trying things before it so that might be why, but the new ghost smith event can effect eggs and make them mergable and upgradable, can't use it on the ground anymore though
EDIT: you said that getting the new thing didn't require any items, does that include food and such? or just equippable
to unclear tbh, it may take a while to get it, the current factors are what egg it is and how to hatch it, I'm assuming that its in a fire related event that you have to hatch it, or maybe you have to do it in the volcano area? heat related could also mean that egg used to get it is pyris? Just throwing some of my ideas out there
to get tama, you need urso and to have cheese (dont eat it), then go to a nest and blam, an option should be the egg where tama is at. After that you unlock it permanently
this is actually something that i silently normalized across all abilities, rows are vertical ie front row / back row. and the other dimension is now refered to as line.
from what i’ve seen, if its still in its egg or self revives by the end of battle, you don’t lose wounds
considering that it’s the only monster with an infinite revival ability, this could be paired with the haunted synergy to do some stupidly crazy damage
I know one is village related, and you wouldnt normally do em in a run, and the other is tama reversed, my current guesses are that maybe if you get a certain item after getting egg, thst it will transform, or that you would feed cheese to a certain monster before hatching the egg? but I have little idea for the village, as mine keeps resetting, maybe if you have 2 specific monsters in a nest you get a secret one?
not sure which one I am on the right track for, I'm assuming its the village one though, besides that I guess I'll have to keep playing, can't really think of how the inverse of tama wouldn't involve items
Edit: I added mabek, kabu, and mudgill into a nest so that the ladders would add up to "Mabu", I feel like I am over complicating it
yeah I saw it and had to retry a few times once I noticed it was happening. you're one of the coolest devs btw. you and a few others on the site are the only ones ive seen who respond to so many comments
the tips ive given out on the discords are: They are things you wouldnt normally do on a run. One is similar to Tama's condition but sorta flipped. The other is related to the village. Theyre very easy to do but not as easy to figure out.
Chip with torch is now Giga-Tank, If you have two chips swapping constantly you have the bulkiest dudes ever, only debuffs can kill. Rather than doing defense based dmg, you get a def-based shield, combine it with a few living armors fused and forged and you have a rock solid defensive line
The aura pot can gain shield, meaning if it appears in a fight with an enemy that grants shield and you have a high speed monster you can easily get upwards of 1k aura from it
ethereal torch sometimes loops it's effect, repeatedly teleporting the monster between two positions. This occurs roughly 50% of the time and lasts an average of 6 position changes. If it is upgraded to legendary +1, when placed on chip it can cause a stun lock.
edit : I did more testing, and it seems to be more consistent the less it is upgraded.
glad to see I am not the only one who uses chip with ethereal torch, and by that I mean I'm in a run to farm rescources and rebuild my village and got chip and HAD to try it
Renaming mid-battle causes a crash when in chrome browser, probably kills the game because of the variables being used and renamed mid-battle, but I'm not a good programmer so I have no idea
It happens randomly actually, I play on web, and I am trying to rebuild my village before I go on another ultimate calm endless (one lvl 3 tree, one lvl 2 tree, one lvl 3 aurite mine, three max forges, and one max nest with urso and some bulky monster)
It happens randomly actually, I play on web, and I am trying to rebuild my village before I go on another ultimate calm endless (one lvl 3 tree, one lvl 2 tree, one lvl 3 aurite mine, three max forges, and one max nest with urso and some bulky monster)
Tzik is busted and i love it, i literally slapped on endless quiver and repulsor and the amount of shield it gets is disgusing, not only that but basically gets a free attack per storm chaser. I know flux shard would be better though, and perhaps forge fusing mesmerizing orb into Tzik would make it the best tank
dismantle mouselings arent applying gnaw :( i've checked for a while now and they dont, apply any at all, otherwise the rate of gnaw would noticeably go up
Also will there be alternate skins for other monsters in the future? cause i love Mabek's alternate, but it's a shame it's the only one rn
There is a typo when upgrading Karakai to Razorshards. Razorshards description says Sharpnel Blast instead of Shrapnel Blast on one part of the description.
:D I made some more plan details on the discord but the goal for the next big patch (1.0!) is steam along with more game modes, achievements, monsters etc. Ill get a steam page up first but it will take abit to actually finish it cause it will be a big one
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k so far I have tried the following to get nessa, I have used tama and pyris egg over a campfire, I have tried to sell and upgrade tama and pyris egg, as well as parra egg (because it's a bird) I have tried all of the following while in the volcano zone, I have gotten rid of eggs at the last boss fight in infinite mode, and now I am completely out of ideas, I have even looked into greek mythology, because nessa was someone who lost a song contest and got turned into a bird, are there any song events?
Not sure where the dev comes up with monster names, but if the name has anything to do with how to get it, I might have an idea
EDIT: but the current web version bug that breaks eggs on save reload would screw it up, it allready requires some ammount of luck and getting the correct event would make it even worse
Also I don't think the dev would expect anyone to figure this out, but I have an idea, I'm legit investigating greek lore rn, nessa is a Pierides, who got turned into a bird after losing a singing contest
name was randomly chosen but ironically bird is the right track O: you are getting closer
I can't tell if that tip helped or made it worse, I allready knew it looks like a bird, but I really don't feel any closer than I was, but I am assuming that all there is to it is opening a specific egg in a specific event, the trouble is which egg and which event, I guess a heat related event? The egg I am mostly clueless, but parra is allready a bird, tama egg would just make sense, and pyris is literraly flaming, I just feel like I have allready tried most possibilities,
I guess I just order eggs from least to most likely and work my way down the list, using that specific egg in every event, but that seems like a time waster, until this bug gets fixed where I can't use eggs after save quitting
bird specifically is the right track! also which version # are you playing on btw? the most recent update should have fixed the broken egg reload glitch
I'm just playing in the web version
OH MY GOD
THATS IT
THERE IS ONE IN WORLD 1
A SINGING EVENT
THATS WHAT I THOUGHT, BUT I CAN"T SAVE RELOAD WITHOUT MY EGGS BREAKING
I feel so smart rn, and sniperarchery also figured it out without me saying much except for greek lore, but it is pretty difficult to get an egg and an event in loop 1, especially if it is the tama egg, and heres the thing, the dev said that it was hard to find out and easy to get, and this isnt easy to get, so probably a lucky consequence, also Mamu was super easy for me to find, and this just seems so complicated
this is such a cool coincidence but im sorry to say its not something I knew of. Its cool enough I may change it to that in the future though
pretty hard to get though, maybe if the event was on the second zone it would make it easier? or you could just make it hard to get
yay reloading fixed, now to test parra egg at singing event
NVM I couldn't take my egg with me back to the start, you fixed locking item blessing being on without getting it
Hmmm, I have 24/25 monsters unlocked... What am i Missing? I got Mamu and Nessa already, as well as Tama and the regular stuff you can find on runs. Can I have some hints, dear dev :3
how did u get nessa? I think mabu came from having an empty lvl 3 nest, but I'm clueless as to how i got it
I just got both Mamu and Nessa from the beginning, where you choose starting monsters, iirc. Also nope, I have nest lvl 2 so that cant be the case
you’re definitely missing a regular monster
last update there were 23 monsters
only mamu and nessa were added this update, making it 25
Yep, went to check, I had not collected Skimander :/
I thought I had it already
I had a weird egg, but now it is invisible and equipabble
was this after the ghostly smith event? also can you check which version you are on? either 0.9.5 or 0.9.5.1?
It was after reloading because the new enemy that spams movement and shields was giving me wounds, and suddenly it happened
man i almost soloed the game, sadly i dont think that's possible unless it's easy difficulty...
i don’t think it’s possible at all bcuz you gotta pick 2 monsters at the start
nevermind, i never realized you could just pick one until now
no you dont, you can leave after choosing one
soloing is pretty tough! There is a slightly secret technique that some have used. Getting a Stick Effigy can let you get to the end boss
what is radiant aurite?
its a special limited item that you use on 3rd form monsters to give them the other 2 abilities you skipped when evolving them.
would probably be nice on mabu based on the second form that got added to my compendium somehow. Speaking of how do i get them (mabu, not the aurite i know how)
found mamu, not sure how, but YAY!
how do you get it
there are 2 ways. 1 is a random greater blessing reward from completing a loop in infinite mode. The other requires you to build an Aurite Mine at your village and have 3 mons working at it. This will allow you to buy 1 radiant during your runs as a new option from aurite locations (its expensive tho)
Is nessa difficult to figure out? or am I just overcomplicating it
I think its the warmth orb that appears in world 3, testing this theory right now
It is not warm light. I am now totally clueless
(edit) Can you please tell me how to get nessa and mabu?
I have a theory
Mabu has something to do with lvl 3 nest i found, but nothing on nessa yet, exhausted my only leads in hatching an egg in sweltering heat and warm light
i cannot seem to get past boss cuz it just crashes i think this is because of the new curses since this save was from before the update was really hoping for loop 25 or something (also i think some of my village monsters disappeared but that could be my imagination)
(fun fact: i won coin flip 3 times in this save)
D: is it saying an error something along the lines of Uncaught Abort
posted a bigger bug fix patch, sorry no more shields on treasures
K so far the tips ive seen are the following: nessa is warmth related, it is acquired by doing something similar to the inverse of tama, it is not normally something you'd do it a run, and it doesn't require items, (Not sure if this includes cheese for tama egg), I am taking some guesses, but maybe an egg needs to be hatched in the volcano area, or the egg has to be a pyris egg (for heat), but these both seem like things you would normally do in a run
The Mamu seemed pretty easy to get, I just really over complicated it, so I'm probably going to figure out that I'm also over complicating nessa a bunch
the game stoped ):
(my hauted thing had terifieing end)
thats not a tama...
hmm the images seem to be broken
yeah I had that issue too, but I figured most people would max tama so it wouldn't matter, pretty easy fix to just add dark outlines for tamas missing evo tho
oh I meant the images weren't showing up at all lol.
They're working on my phone tho but yea I just fixed this bug actually in the patch so it shouldn't happen anymore
I randomly found the middle mabu evolution unlocked somewhere but not the others, I hatched a mudgill in the warm light event trying to get nessa and evolved it when it wasn't nessa, but this unlocked the second mabu in the compendium, and not the first or third forms.
Rather obscure bug with Ethereal Torch : If you swap two monsters holding Ethereal Torch, the torch will sometimes only proc once.
I tested this by swapping a Chip with Replica holding an Ethereal Torch and a Seras with Flanking Maneuvers , given the effects of the torch using Replica.
Sometimes only 20 strength got added, and sometimes 40. The monsters also sometimes stayed in the same place, as intended, but sometimes they swapped. Strangely, this did not seem to correlate with the amount of strength added.
Edit: After further testing with the same setup, the effect rarely activates three times. I have no idea what might cause this.
hmm Ive done some testing on this, and it seems like it might just be the text popping up over the wrong position. Ill keep an eye on it
Ok shield on pots is getting really annoying... this is the 7th time in the same run that the shields are on pots and i cant get the food ;-;
new patch is out now, this shouldnt happen anymore!
Getting the new monsters is seriously demanding for me to become Sherlock Holmes
more vague tips: One is related to the idea of warmth and the other is related to the idea of coldth sorta
i love the concept of secret monsters, it adds so much replayability to the game
cold makes me think a certain area might be involved but that’s prob a stretch
I know which one the cold one is, but I don't see how it helps get the monster
theyre cold and lonely!
My guesses for getting Nessa so far are that after getting a specific egg, you either beat the final boss and get rid of it, sell it, or use it during a specific event, which really doesent narrow it down, but I am going to try some of these things with the tama egg
can't even sell the tama egg, it just makes you use it, at least at the forge
I have tried so many things
How did you get an equipable egg???
I'm tellin you, I've tried so many things and still cant figure out what to do, I have sold eggs, merged them, used them in specific events. named pets crazy things, I legitamately don't know what to do anymore.
For the egg, I think I broke a bit from trying things before it so that might be why, but the new ghost smith event can effect eggs and make them mergable and upgradable, can't use it on the ground anymore though
EDIT: you said that getting the new thing didn't require any items, does that include food and such? or just equippable
just egg but it's not any egg, no other items
what’s messa? i only see mamu and nessa in the compendium as new monsters
ah, I have been spelling it wrong tbh there is no messa, I was mixing up mamu and nessa
to unclear tbh, it may take a while to get it, the current factors are what egg it is and how to hatch it, I'm assuming that its in a fire related event that you have to hatch it, or maybe you have to do it in the volcano area? heat related could also mean that egg used to get it is pyris? Just throwing some of my ideas out there
why cant i find the tamain my collection thing?
what do i use the cheese for?
to get tama, you need urso and to have cheese (dont eat it), then go to a nest and blam, an option should be the egg where tama is at. After that you unlock it permanently
urso isnt required!
try taking it to a nest
thatsfunny,i thought i just got the starnge egg cause of luck and i was supposed to give it to tama
Mamu last evolution is pretty good, might end up making it on my team compositions
Mistake on the mamu: its active says it shields allies in row, but it only seems to shield allies in column, not sure if it has allready been adressed
this is actually something that i silently normalized across all abilities, rows are vertical ie front row / back row. and the other dimension is now refered to as line.
If messa is the inverse of tama without items, I have no idea what to do so I am going to name everyone messa in the my team,
I got that messa bird on the first run like yesterday, the abillity seemed useless and quirky somehow if it gives wounds on death especially so?
from what i’ve seen, if its still in its egg or self revives by the end of battle, you don’t lose wounds
considering that it’s the only monster with an infinite revival ability, this could be paired with the haunted synergy to do some stupidly crazy damage
Are there any in game hints about how to get either of the two monsters?
I know one is village related, and you wouldnt normally do em in a run, and the other is tama reversed, my current guesses are that maybe if you get a certain item after getting egg, thst it will transform, or that you would feed cheese to a certain monster before hatching the egg? but I have little idea for the village, as mine keeps resetting, maybe if you have 2 specific monsters in a nest you get a secret one?
you are one the right track! no items involved
not sure which one I am on the right track for, I'm assuming its the village one though, besides that I guess I'll have to keep playing, can't really think of how the inverse of tama wouldn't involve items
Edit: I added mabek, kabu, and mudgill into a nest so that the ladders would add up to "Mabu", I feel like I am over complicating it
I just got it, I'm not sure if I did it correctly or not though, might just be a bug
Edit: yeah it's consistent so I think I got it, much easier than I thought, now for messa
Woo!
what is a ladder
I wonder how many people have allready figured out how to get it, surely not that many
so far if anyone has, they havent mentioned it!
There's currently a bug with the new Elemental/Guardian Monster that removes both of its synergies when you evolve it
was this on evolve or dying?
So, i just double checked, and it looks like its on death. i guess i just wasnt paying very good attention. sorry about tha
thanks that's OK! its a weird bug and just wanted to make sure
yeah I saw it and had to retry a few times once I noticed it was happening. you're one of the coolest devs btw. you and a few others on the site are the only ones ive seen who respond to so many comments
thank you very much, everyones so helpful with finding stuff to make the game better :D
i havent seen the new monsters at all, are they like event related or something?
no clue, but i found one of them at the start during selection
theyre supposed to have secret conditions but because i messed up something some people are able to get them without figuring it out :c
oof, sounds like i'm just unlucky then, time to use my brain
the tips ive given out on the discords are: They are things you wouldnt normally do on a run. One is similar to Tama's condition but sorta flipped. The other is related to the village. Theyre very easy to do but not as easy to figure out.
spelling mistake:at the forboding den,it says "requires bulky or tenacious synergy and not taken"
how do you get stone and obsidian?
From the 2nd and 3rd area bosses, or possibly from the new event Ghostly Smith in area 2 or 3
thats how!
yep, and if you are in infinite mode you can get a few extra on the 2nd trip through
"Theres more that utilize shields now that I forgot to write down oops"
I laughed internally when I saw this
Chip with torch is now Giga-Tank, If you have two chips swapping constantly you have the bulkiest dudes ever, only debuffs can kill. Rather than doing defense based dmg, you get a def-based shield, combine it with a few living armors fused and forged and you have a rock solid defensive line
thats one of the things that he forgot to write
What does silence do
prevents monsters from using abilities
yea, specifically their active ability that casts when their mana is full
what is nessa?
So cuuuuuuuuute
Does it evolve?
The aura pot can gain shield, meaning if it appears in a fight with an enemy that grants shield and you have a high speed monster you can easily get upwards of 1k aura from it
oh no ill need to fix that, but that is pretty funny
Also shields can stop me from getting my free rare fruits and maginuts from the food pots
Defender + whatever pot = bad
Defender + aura pot = good
You need something like arcane wand or something that can taaack 120 times in 12 secons to get over 1 k aura
literally just happened to me with a chest ;-; but yeah with the aura pot it sounds busted
ethereal torch sometimes loops it's effect, repeatedly teleporting the monster between two positions. This occurs roughly 50% of the time and lasts an average of 6 position changes. If it is upgraded to legendary +1, when placed on chip it can cause a stun lock.
edit : I did more testing, and it seems to be more consistent the less it is upgraded.
glad to see I am not the only one who uses chip with ethereal torch, and by that I mean I'm in a run to farm rescources and rebuild my village and got chip and HAD to try it
Renaming mid-battle causes a crash when in chrome browser, probably kills the game because of the variables being used and renamed mid-battle, but I'm not a good programmer so I have no idea
has this happened again? I havent been able to make it happen. Also were you on web or pc?
It happens randomly actually, I play on web, and I am trying to rebuild my village before I go on another ultimate calm endless (one lvl 3 tree, one lvl 2 tree, one lvl 3 aurite mine, three max forges, and one max nest with urso and some bulky monster)
It happens randomly actually, I play on web, and I am trying to rebuild my village before I go on another ultimate calm endless (one lvl 3 tree, one lvl 2 tree, one lvl 3 aurite mine, three max forges, and one max nest with urso and some bulky monster)
Tzik is busted and i love it, i literally slapped on endless quiver and repulsor and the amount of shield it gets is disgusing, not only that but basically gets a free attack per storm chaser. I know flux shard would be better though, and perhaps forge fusing mesmerizing orb into Tzik would make it the best tank
Is crown of spring bug fixed? If not then Kunai becomes completely broken, giving 474 shield every attack.
Otherwise I love the shields up-date and Kunai!
dismantle mouselings arent applying gnaw :(
i've checked for a while now and they dont, apply any at all, otherwise the rate of gnaw would noticeably go up
Also will there be alternate skins for other monsters in the future? cause i love Mabek's alternate, but it's a shame it's the only one rn
Checked this out and Gnaw is applying its just missing the update to the display so its just a visual bug! Will be fixed with next patch tyty
I def want to add more (and returning) skins. Originally there were plans for a few for this patch but I wasnt able to get as much done as I had hoped
There is a typo when upgrading Karakai to Razorshards. Razorshards description says Sharpnel Blast instead of Shrapnel Blast on one part of the description.
ty ty will fix
quick update fixing a bug where tama wouldnt appear from their egg, also added the new monsters to the compendium
Aurite change is definetely nice imo, now I can make use of buying radiant aurite and lose a monster for perm buffs
Dang, I lost my progress, but at least there is a new update!
I had a new team composition that I think ima try now, maybe replace any of the monsters with some new ones
Higher difficulties should probably give more rescources on clear in standard mode to make rescource farming easier.
i love this game! No steam page yet?
:D I made some more plan details on the discord but the goal for the next big patch (1.0!) is steam along with more game modes, achievements, monsters etc. Ill get a steam page up first but it will take abit to actually finish it cause it will be a big one